jc wrote:

fred wrote: So GM and Ford purposely build fewer cars so they won't have to hire more people? McDonalds limits their number of stores to make sure too many kids don't have jobs? Walmart chooses not to build more stores because then there would be too many people with jobs? that's right, fred. if those companies make/sell so many products that their need for labor consistently and significantly exceeds their supply of labor, then the workforce will gain control and/or substantial influence over the conditions of employment (salaries, benefits, work conditions, etc). as wages, benefits, overtime, etc increase, the fact that the company is making/selling more product will not result in higher profits. plus, if everyone is employed, gov't will eventually stop subsidizing big business' workforce.

So all the companies in the country got together at some big meeting and agreed to a deal to keep the jobs fewer than the workforce? Did this meeting by chance take place at Area 51?

It's official, you are a retard. The car companies, for years would do almost anything to keep from cutting production. They have always built more cars than there were people wanting to buy them. Then they would cut prices and give incentives to try and sell them all before the new models come out. Sam Walton said he would put a Walmart across the street from every Kmart and he pretty much did. Sounds like twice as many jobs there.

fred wrote:

It's official, you are a retard. The car companies, for years would do almost anything to keep from cutting production. They have always built more cars than there were people wanting to buy them. Then they would cut prices and give incentives to try and sell them all before the new models come out. Sam Walton said he would put a Walmart across the street from every Kmart and he pretty much did. Sounds like twice as many jobs there.

no company makes more product than it can pay for - not for very long. and there are always WAY more peple who need jobs than there are jobs - at least twice as many.
of course walmart builds by k-mart. they want to run k-mart out of business and assure that walmart has all of the business AND an overabundance of desperate, readily available, cheap labor (all the people who just lost their jobs at k-mart). walmart is very good at that.
btw-the auto manufactueres are not exactly what we are talking about when we are talking about an on-demand, at-will, low-wage workforce.

"and there are always WAY more peple who need jobs than there are jobs "

See we agree on that. But the problem is that way too many of the ones who "need" a job don't want one.

fred wrote:

"and there are always WAY more peple who need jobs than there are jobs " See we agree on that. But the problem is that way too many of the ones who "need" a job don't want one.

you have no idea how many people want or don't want jobs. hell, i never wanted one, but i had lots of them. you said that there are enough jobs for everyone. that is simply not true - there are not enough jobs for everyone. that is a FACT.

No, I said there are enough jobs for everyone that wants one. That is what I have been talking about for weeks. The number of people who get their "check" every month and how many of those I am directly supporting.

fred wrote:

No, I said there are enough jobs for everyone that wants one. That is what I have been talking about for weeks. The number of people who get their "check" every month and how many of those I am directly supporting.

you are talking in circles again, fred. like i keep telling you, you are supporting big businesses' at-will, on-demand, low-wage workforce so that big business won't have to do that themselves. they can force you to do that, because they can make sure that they never allow the number of jobs to exceed the number of people who need jobs.

jc wrote:

fred wrote: No, I said there are enough jobs for everyone that wants one. That is what I have been talking about for weeks. The number of people who get their "check" every month and how many of those I am directly supporting. you are talking in circles again, fred. like i keep telling you, you are supporting big businesses' at-will, on-demand, low-wage workforce so that big business won't have to do that themselves. they can force you to do that, because they can make sure that they never allow the number of jobs to exceed the number of people who need jobs.

You're the one talking in circles there, adolf... Typical. Fred said that there are enough jobs for anyone who wants one. And your answer is to keep going back to the number of people who are unemployed (which includes both those who want jobs and those who don't want jobs versus the number of available jobs. If there were people wanting jobs, but none were available, then there wouldn't be any want-ads, now would there? The fact is there are jobs available everywhere, yet there are still unemployed people. Why's that?

5forfighting wrote:

jc wrote: fred wrote: No, I said there are enough jobs for everyone that wants one. That is what I have been talking about for weeks. The number of people who get their "check" every month and how many of those I am directly supporting. you are talking in circles again, fred. like i keep telling you, you are supporting big businesses' at-will, on-demand, low-wage workforce so that big business won't have to do that themselves. they can force you to do that, because they can make sure that they never allow the number of jobs to exceed the number of people who need jobs. You're the one talking in circles there, adolf... Typical. Fred said that there are enough jobs for anyone who wants one. And your answer is to keep going back to the number of people who are unemployed (which includes both those who want jobs and those who don't want jobs versus the number of available jobs. If there were people wanting jobs, but none were available, then there wouldn't be any want-ads, now would there? The fact is there are jobs available everywhere, yet there are still unemployed people. Why's that?

fred has no idea how many people want a job. that is just another of fred's scams for racist and bigoted suckers like you to fall for. there are twice as many unemployed people as there are available jobs. that is a FACT*.
*you may now return to your racist and bigoted opinions.

I agree. Jobs in this country are in so short supply that you practically have to be an Illegal Immigrant who can't speak English to get one.

BanditBacker wrote:

I agree. Jobs in this country are in so short supply that you practically have to be an Illegal Immigrant who can't speak English to get one.

yeah, that is another trick of big business. import and hire people from foreign countires who will work for almost nothing. no wonder there are twice as many americans unemployed as there are jobs.

There were over 400 jobs in the paper on Sunday.

fred wrote:

There were over 400 jobs in the paper on Sunday.

That's impossible. All the unemployed people want jobs, so there can't be any available, or they'd all be taken.

fred wrote:

There were over 400 jobs in the paper on Sunday.

that's 1/2 the story. tell me where you live and i'll tell you how many unemployed people need jobs.

Huntsville Alabama.

5forfighting wrote:

fred wrote: There were over 400 jobs in the paper on Sunday. That's impossible. All the unemployed people want jobs, so there can't be any available, or they'd all be taken.

turnover, 5. turnover.

fred wrote:

Huntsville Alabama.

8500 unemployed people last month. 400 jobs.

I believe your stats are wrong. There are only about 160,000 in Huntsville Which means there are about 100,000 working age and the unemployment rate is about 3.7 %.

jc wrote:

5forfighting wrote: fred wrote: There were over 400 jobs in the paper on Sunday. That's impossible. All the unemployed people want jobs, so there can't be any available, or they'd all be taken. turnover, 5. turnover.

Horseshit, jc. Horseshit.

There are a wide variety of jobs available, from high turnover, low skill jobs, to low turn over, high skill jobs and everywhere in between. But you have to actually want a job.

Hell, I dated a girl in high school who's dad hadn't worked in over three years because he was "holding out for a management position". Half the reason I broke up with her is because I didn't want to have to support his dumb ass. Last I knew (as of two years ago, when I last ran into her) he still hadn't managed to find a job! But I'm really sure he must have wanted one, right?

jc wrote:

fred wrote: Huntsville Alabama. 8500 unemployed people last month. 400 jobs.

Do any of those 8500 want a job? Perhaps they should apply themselves.