fred wrote:

How did old/disabled people live before 1935?

i think you would be happier if you started your own country of one, fred. you don't really seem to be down with the whole concept of "common good". study up on why social security was begun, you'll have the answer to your question.

The "common good" refers to taking from some and giving to others?

Was Roosevelt your hero?

fred wrote:

The "common good" refers to taking from some and giving to others?

it's about being a part of a country where we help our fellow citizens when they need help and they help us when we need it.

fred wrote:

Was Roosevelt your hero?

he was a great man, wasn't he.

"it's about being a part of a country where we help our fellow citizens when they need help and they help us when we need it."


By force?

"he was a great man, wasn't he."

If you think socalists are great.

fred wrote:

"it's about being a part of a country where we help our fellow citizens when they need help and they help us when we need it." By force?

by the rule of law

fred wrote:

"he was a great man, wasn't he." If you think socalists are great.

after you get done with your klan coven you should be sure to attend your local john birch meeting.

jc wrote:

fred wrote: "he was a great man, wasn't he." If you think socalists are great. after you get done with your klan coven you should be sure to attend your local john birch meeting.

He started the idea that the government has the responsibilty to take care of us all. That's why our goverment is as large as it is and why they have to take so much from the productive people.

You never answered my question. Why should it be my right to quit working when I am 62 if I haven't saved enough money to take care of myself?

it's not only your right but the demand of your fellow workers. They don't want to deal with your senial ass any longer than 62!!

"senial ass "


Is that a gay term?

I wouldn't know....how about confused???

fred wrote:

He started the idea that the government has the responsibilty to take care of us all. That's why our goverment is as large as it is and why they have to take so much from the productive people. You never answered my question. Why should it be my right to quit working when I am 62 if I haven't saved enough money to take care of myself?

the answer to your question is apprent, fred. we are one country and one people and we help each other when help is needed. we have decided that providing for the common good is one of our values. if you want to go it on your own, start the country of fred and go it alone. believe me, no one will care.

Come on, it's just a question. The day I turn 62, all of a sudden "help is needed" and everybody else has the responsibility to provide for me?

fred wrote:

Come on, it's just a question. The day I turn 62, all of a sudden "help is needed" and everybody else has the responsibility to provide for me?

it's already been explained to you, fred.

yeah, that rooselvelt guy really sucked as president

Federalist Society - The Wall Street Journal Survey on Presidents

RANK NAME MEAN
GREAT
1 George Washington 4.92
2 Abraham Lincoln 4.87
3 Franklin Roosevelt 4.67

The number listed above is the mean score of all the scholars' rating of each president. On this scale, five is the highest possible score.

"scholars"?

Retards maybe.

The "First New Deal" of 1933 aimed at short-term recovery programs for all groups. Based on the assumption that the federal government could solve the financial problems, the Roosevelt administration promoted or implemented: banking reform laws, emergency relief programs, work relief programs, and agricultural programs.

A "Second New Deal" (1935–36) was a more comprehensive redistribution of power and resources; which included: union protection programs, the Social Security Act, and programs to aid tenant farmers and migrant workers. The Supreme Court ruled several programs unconstitutional; however, some parts of these were soon replaced, with the exception of the National Recovery Administration).

In the "First New Deal" (1933-34) many organized liberal groups gained much of what they had demanded. This "First New Deal" was thus a blend of self-contradiction, pragmatism, and experiment. The economy eventually recovered from the low point of 1932, with sustained improvement until 1937, when the Recession of 1937 brought back 1934 levels of unemployment. Whether the New Deal was responsible for the recovery, or whether it slowed the recovery, has been disputed.

"In March and April in a series of Acts of Congress and executive orders Roosevelt and Congress suspended the gold standard for United States currency." We all know how much that has helped, right.

"Roosevelt, however, emboldened by the triumphs of his first term, set out in 1937 to consolidate authority within the government in ways that provoked powerful opposition. Early in the year, he asked Congress to expand the number of justices on the Supreme Court so as to allow him to appoint members sympathetic to his ideas and hence tip the ideological balance of the Court. This proposal provoked a storm of protest."

"Roosevelt played a critical role in shaping the post-war world, particularly through the Yalta Conference and the creation of the United Nations." I'm sure you love the UN.

"In a controversial move, Roosevelt gave Executive Order 6102 which made all privately held gold of American citizens property of the US Treasury. This gold confiscation by executive order was argued to be unconstitutional, but Roosevelt's executive order asserts authority to do so based on the "War Time Powers Act" of 1917. Gold bullion remained illegal for Americans to own until President Ford rescinded the order in 1974"

"During the war he pushed for even higher income tax rates for individuals (reaching a marginal tax rate of 91%) "


"The Supreme Court was the main obstacle to Roosevelt's programs during his second term, overturning many of his programs. In particular in 1935 the Court unanimously ruled that the National Recovery Act (NRA) was an unconstitutional delegation of legislative power to the president. Roosevelt stunned Congress in early 1937 by proposing a law allowing him to appoint five new justices, a "persistent infusion of new blood".[60] This "court packing" plan ran into intense political opposition from his own party, led by Vice President Garner, since it seemed to upset the separation of powers and give the President control over the Court."


I could probably go on forever. But you get the idea. Now find some things he did that were good for the country. Other than repeal prohibition of course.

fred wrote:

"scholars"? Retards maybe.

right, we all know what a bastion of socialism and retardation the wall street journal is. and those federalist scholars are clearly just a bunch of commies retards.
"The Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy Studies is a group of conservatives and libertarians interested in the current state of the legal order. It is founded on the principles that the state exists to preserve freedom, that the separation of governmental powers is central to our Constitution, and that it is emphatically the province and duty of the judiciary to say what the law is, not what it should be. The Society seeks both to promote an awareness of these principles and to further their application through its activities."