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 PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:40 am 

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Maybe he just likes being the best.

This kind of reminds me of liberals... Punish success!

Either way, his mom sounds like a real bitch.


punish success??!! Laughing . i'm the one who wants him to move on into better competition so he will be more sucessful. you remind me of the parents who think their kid is a great hockey player because he can score lots of goals playing in the house league but won't let him play on a travel team.


I was referring to the fact that the league was punishing the kid for doing well by telling himm couldn't pitch or couldn't play. Try and keep up...


don't quote my posts if you are talking about someone else. but, seriously, just stop lying - you know you weren't talking about the league.
the league should move him up in competition so as not to "punish" him by depriving him of competition.

 
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jc wrote:
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jc wrote:
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Maybe he just likes being the best.

This kind of reminds me of liberals... Punish success!

Either way, his mom sounds like a real bitch.


punish success??!! Laughing . i'm the one who wants him to move on into better competition so he will be more sucessful. you remind me of the parents who think their kid is a great hockey player because he can score lots of goals playing in the house league but won't let him play on a travel team.


I was referring to the fact that the league was punishing the kid for doing well by telling himm couldn't pitch or couldn't play. Try and keep up...


don't quote my posts if you are talking about someone else. but, seriously, just stop lying - you know you weren't talking about the league.
the league should move him up in competition so as not to "punish" him by depriving him of competition.


Don't try and tell me who I was talking about you fucking troll. You aren't fooling anyone. You just want to be a pain in the ass.

 
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Then do it with the next kid and the next etc. Until the worst kids are left? I think along with being fun and getting exercise sports, should teach kids to compete against each other. I know this is politically incorrect. I'm not saying win at any cost or not have good sportsmanship. But to get ahead in life you will have to compete most of the rest of your life.

 
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Where do we draw the line? I played a lot of sports when I was a kid and there were always good players and bad players. There were so many different skill levels across the teams that, had everyone been put into a seperate group, there wouldn't have been enough players to compete. And what do you do with a kid who excels in one respect, but lacks in another? For instance, what if he's a great pitcher, but can't hit or run well? Do you have him pitch in one league, and then just hit in another? This is ridiculous.

 
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5forfighting wrote:
jc wrote:
5forfighting wrote:
jc wrote:
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Maybe he just likes being the best.

This kind of reminds me of liberals... Punish success!

Either way, his mom sounds like a real bitch.


punish success??!! Laughing . i'm the one who wants him to move on into better competition so he will be more sucessful. you remind me of the parents who think their kid is a great hockey player because he can score lots of goals playing in the house league but won't let him play on a travel team.


I was referring to the fact that the league was punishing the kid for doing well by telling himm couldn't pitch or couldn't play. Try and keep up...


don't quote my posts if you are talking about someone else. but, seriously, just stop lying - you know you weren't talking about the league.
the league should move him up in competition so as not to "punish" him by depriving him of competition.


Don't try and tell me who I was talking about you fucking troll. You aren't fooling anyone. You just want to be a pain in the ass.


i know exactly what you were talking about. quoting on to my post made that very clear.
ps-try to control yourself.

 
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jc wrote:
i know exactly what you were talking about. quoting on to my post made that very clear.
ps-try to control yourself.


I know who I was talking about, and it's obvious that you either have no clue, or are just up to your usual tactics of willfully being an idiot. In either case, I again appreciate you coming here and entertaining me with your stupidity. Today would have been really boring otherwise.

 
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Then do it with the next kid and the next etc. Until the worst kids are left? I think along with being fun and getting exercise sports, should teach kids to compete against each other. I know this is politically incorrect. I'm not saying win at any cost or not have good sportsmanship. But to get ahead in life you will have to compete most of the rest of your life.


yeah, that's what i've been saying. kids should compete and sports should be competitive. and that is why kids are moved up and down in sports leagues for competivie purposes all the time. if you don't know that, then you probably shouldn't even be in this thread. anyone who wants to hold their kid back just so he/she can overwhelm lesser competition should be ashamed. but, that isn't a problem if the kid just wants to be with his little buddies. in that event, not pitching shouldn't be a concern (he doesn't have to pitch to do that). really - not a big problem or a big deal.

 
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5forfighting wrote:
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i know exactly what you were talking about. quoting on to my post made that very clear.
ps-try to control yourself.


I know who I was talking about, and it's obvious that you either have no clue, or are just up to your usual tactics of willfully being an idiot. In either case, I again appreciate you coming here and entertaining me with your stupidity. Today would have been really boring otherwise.


don't use my posts if you aren't talking about me. don't act stupid to avoid admitting your mistakes. quit lying to cover up all your other lies. and, if you are having so much fun, stop losing your cool so often.

 
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I was talking about the poor kids who aren't as good and only want to play agianst other kids who aren't as good.

 
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I was talking about the poor kids who aren't as good and only want to play agianst other kids who aren't as good.


that's terrific

 
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jc wrote:
5forfighting wrote:
jc wrote:
i know exactly what you were talking about. quoting on to my post made that very clear.
ps-try to control yourself.


I know who I was talking about, and it's obvious that you either have no clue, or are just up to your usual tactics of willfully being an idiot. In either case, I again appreciate you coming here and entertaining me with your stupidity. Today would have been really boring otherwise.


don't use my posts if you aren't talking about me. don't act stupid to avoid admitting your mistakes. quit lying to cover up all your other lies. and, if you are having so much fun, stop losing your cool so often.


I was responding to your post you fucking idiot! Christ, you're stupid!

And, believe me... This isn't even close to "losing my cool". I'm just amazed that an idiot like you is actually capable of remembering how to get online.

 
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5forfighting wrote:
jc wrote:
5forfighting wrote:
jc wrote:
i know exactly what you were talking about. quoting on to my post made that very clear.
ps-try to control yourself.


I know who I was talking about, and it's obvious that you either have no clue, or are just up to your usual tactics of willfully being an idiot. In either case, I again appreciate you coming here and entertaining me with your stupidity. Today would have been really boring otherwise.


don't use my posts if you aren't talking about me. don't act stupid to avoid admitting your mistakes. quit lying to cover up all your other lies. and, if you are having so much fun, stop losing your cool so often.


I was responding to your post you fucking idiot! Christ, you're stupid!

And, believe me... This isn't even close to "losing my cool". I'm just amazed that an idiot like you is actually capable of remembering how to get online.


stop lying. you didn't need to respond to my post to talk about the league or the liberals. as far as you losing your cool, i am sure it is a very impressive sight when you have a total meltdown. but, for now, all these exclaimation points on your name calling and insults seem like an overreaction. try to maintain an even strain. please.

 
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jc wrote:
5forfighting wrote:
jc wrote:
5forfighting wrote:
jc wrote:
i know exactly what you were talking about. quoting on to my post made that very clear.
ps-try to control yourself.


I know who I was talking about, and it's obvious that you either have no clue, or are just up to your usual tactics of willfully being an idiot. In either case, I again appreciate you coming here and entertaining me with your stupidity. Today would have been really boring otherwise.


don't use my posts if you aren't talking about me. don't act stupid to avoid admitting your mistakes. quit lying to cover up all your other lies. and, if you are having so much fun, stop losing your cool so often.


I was responding to your post you fucking idiot! Christ, you're stupid!

And, believe me... This isn't even close to "losing my cool". I'm just amazed that an idiot like you is actually capable of remembering how to get online.


stop lying. you didn't need to respond to my post to talk about the league or the liberals. as far as you losing your cool, i am sure it is a very impressive sight when you have a total meltdown. but, for now, all these exclaimation points on your name calling and insults seem like an overreaction. try to maintain an even strain. please.


Quit lying about shit & I might. I made a statement, you replied to that statement showing that you misunderstood who it was directed at, and I quoted your post in my response providing clarification. Is this really that hard for you to understand, or are you just playing stupid?

 
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Sometimes I think he must just be playing. Nobody can get so many things wrong so much of the time.

 
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5forfighting wrote:
jc wrote:
5forfighting wrote:
jc wrote:
5forfighting wrote:
jc wrote:
i know exactly what you were talking about. quoting on to my post made that very clear.
ps-try to control yourself.


I know who I was talking about, and it's obvious that you either have no clue, or are just up to your usual tactics of willfully being an idiot. In either case, I again appreciate you coming here and entertaining me with your stupidity. Today would have been really boring otherwise.


don't use my posts if you aren't talking about me. don't act stupid to avoid admitting your mistakes. quit lying to cover up all your other lies. and, if you are having so much fun, stop losing your cool so often.


I was responding to your post you fucking idiot! Christ, you're stupid!

And, believe me... This isn't even close to "losing my cool". I'm just amazed that an idiot like you is actually capable of remembering how to get online.


stop lying. you didn't need to respond to my post to talk about the league or the liberals. as far as you losing your cool, i am sure it is a very impressive sight when you have a total meltdown. but, for now, all these exclaimation points on your name calling and insults seem like an overreaction. try to maintain an even strain. please.


Quit lying about shit & I might. I made a statement, you replied to that statement showing that you misunderstood who it was directed at, and I quoted your post in my response providing clarification. Is this really that hard for you to understand, or are you just playing stupid?


this is another of your lies. you didn't need to use my post to talk about the league. it;s just that simple.

 
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fred wrote:
Sometimes I think he must just be playing. Nobody can get so many things wrong so much of the time.


it is beneath you to mp for 5.

 
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He asked a question I answered it. I was mp' ing for you.

 
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He asked a question I answered it. I was mp' ing for you.


it's beneath you, fred, no matter how you try to justify it.

 
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WRONG.

it's little league for the kids not for the adults to decide. I've coached little league like most of us have and you get a wide arrange of talent. With your thinking and suggestions that he should be moved up, that means lil johnny bubbleblower, who is 9, and on the same team who doesn't know a grounder from a pop fly or which end of the bat to hold should be sent down to tee ball to learn the game and play at his LEVEL with 5 year olds.

BULLSHIT


not for adults to decide??!! are you nuts? of course adults decide the rules for little league.
a player who is far more skilled and who is playing far below his talent level is exactly the same as a kid who is playings far above his. if there are options, neither situation should occur. our coaching experience obviously leads us to two entirely different postions on this. i think it is a diservice to a kid who has talent to play him in a situation that provides no competition for him/her. just like it is a desservice for the kids who have to play against players against whom they cannot legitimately compete. like i said, kids are moved up or down in competition all the time based on their skill level. whay this should be different is beyond me.


I coached little league for two years and not once was a kid moved down out of his age group no matter how bad he sucked. Maybe that's a fundamental they apply in Okie but not here. Kids play in their age group.

whether it's 7-8 yr olds or 9-10. A draft is conducted and what you get is what you get. Hell one year I had a team worse than the bad news bears. They smoked, cussed, and actually got into a bench clearing brawl with themselves, while the other team looked on. LOL. And yes jc i'll give you some credit:

Kids are asked to play on traveling teams usually the best players. Never seen a kid who wasn't skilled make a traveling team but these traveling teams are still kept by age brackets an outstanding 7 year old does not nor have they ever played on a 10 year olds team.

kid in this story should be allowed to pitch and the kids on the other teams need to try their best. The parents of these kids need to shut the hell up and quit crying and if anything work with their kids to make them better players against this piture.

End of story: ONLY IN AMERICA

(unless you are from okie where an outstanding 6 yr old can play on the varsity baseball team and a sucky 14 yr old is not assisting the lil ones but actually trying to hit the ball off the tee Rolling Eyes )

The star stays in his age bracket and really shines!!

ALAS LIL LEAGUE IS FOR THE KIDS NOT THE PARENTS OR ADULTS TO DECIDE (notice no mention of the of the rules (which here is set by a governing body--baseball commision) or coach who ultimately decides where each kid plays)

IF player A pitches better than batter b can hit tough shit!! Tight wad parents of player b, better be taking their kid to the batting cages for practice!! Instead of crying on the sidelines how unfair it is!!

 
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FWIW- My son played 2nd year machine pitch this season. The machine was set to 38 mph. Guidelines allowed for 37-42 mph. So it doesn't sound like this kid is throwing all that hard. Also, LL has rules concerning pitch count, so it ain't like he will be pitching every game. I think the parents of the other teams need to get over it. I doubt they would complain if one of their kids could hit the ball out of the park every time he came up. Just goes to show you how it takes parents to wreck kid's sports.

 
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