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Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:45 pm |
WildcatFan8411
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Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:12 pm |
Jtornado
aka Big Time
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Yo Chuck! They must be on the pipe. Right?
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Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:26 am |
5forfighting
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Thu Sep 18, 2008 6:31 am |
jc
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Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:03 am |
stoney
10 acrea's UP FOR GRABS!!
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Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:05 am |
stoney
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Thu Sep 18, 2008 8:41 am |
5forfighting
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Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:29 am |
jc
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| 5forfighting wrote: | | jc wrote: | i oppose the death penalty. we can't be sure that innocent people aren't being executed. there are simply too many mistakes and problems in the justice system, too many convictions being oveturned due to dna, too much racism in jury selection and decision making and too much new science proving that even eyewitness identifications are often flawed.
what really amazes me is that so-called "right to life" supporters almost invariably support the death penalty, even knowing that innocent people are likely being executed. it seems kinda' hypocritical to me. |
Good point, only two problems:
A. He admitted to everything but the actual killings. If he was there, helped disable the car, helped rape the girls, and then stood idly by while his buddy beat and strangled both girls to death (unlikely), he's still guilty by his own admission.
B. You want to bitch about innocent people being convicted, yet you still support unqualified individuals being allowed to bypass qualified individuals in admission to law school based solely on race.
Just how stupid are you? |
1. the death penalty isn't about this one person. it is about a system that kills people based on often unreliable information.
2. i support affirmative action because it is clear that as long as there are racists like you in america minorities will never have equal opportunity without it.
bonus point - 3. i'm glad you brought up the poor legal representation thing. that is one more reason why the death penalty is flawed - poor people do not get the same quality of legal representation as rich people do. and once they are dead, that problem cannot be corrected.
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Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:40 am |
Jtornado
aka Big Time
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Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:00 am |
jc
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Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:34 am |
Kermie
Scored 1st goal


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Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:45 am |
stoney
10 acrea's UP FOR GRABS!!
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Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:05 am |
5forfighting
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| jc wrote: | | 5forfighting wrote: | | jc wrote: | i oppose the death penalty. we can't be sure that innocent people aren't being executed. there are simply too many mistakes and problems in the justice system, too many convictions being oveturned due to dna, too much racism in jury selection and decision making and too much new science proving that even eyewitness identifications are often flawed.
what really amazes me is that so-called "right to life" supporters almost invariably support the death penalty, even knowing that innocent people are likely being executed. it seems kinda' hypocritical to me. |
Good point, only two problems:
A. He admitted to everything but the actual killings. If he was there, helped disable the car, helped rape the girls, and then stood idly by while his buddy beat and strangled both girls to death (unlikely), he's still guilty by his own admission.
B. You want to bitch about innocent people being convicted, yet you still support unqualified individuals being allowed to bypass qualified individuals in admission to law school based solely on race.
Just how stupid are you? |
1. the death penalty isn't about this one person. it is about a system that kills people based on often unreliable information.
2. i support affirmative action because it is clear that as long as there are racists like you in america minorities will never have equal opportunity without it.
bonus point - 3. i'm glad you brought up the poor legal representation thing. that is one more reason why the death penalty is flawed - poor people do not get the same quality of legal representation as rich people do. and once they are dead, that problem cannot be corrected. |
THIS is the case we're discussing, jc... He admitted involvement. Period.
I'm still amazed that you will support a system that allows unqualified individuals to practice law, and then bitch about the injustice of the legal system. You aren't only stupid, you're a hypocrite too!
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Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:16 am |
jc
NHL All-Star


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| 5forfighting wrote: | | jc wrote: | | 5forfighting wrote: | | jc wrote: | i oppose the death penalty. we can't be sure that innocent people aren't being executed. there are simply too many mistakes and problems in the justice system, too many convictions being oveturned due to dna, too much racism in jury selection and decision making and too much new science proving that even eyewitness identifications are often flawed.
what really amazes me is that so-called "right to life" supporters almost invariably support the death penalty, even knowing that innocent people are likely being executed. it seems kinda' hypocritical to me. |
Good point, only two problems:
A. He admitted to everything but the actual killings. If he was there, helped disable the car, helped rape the girls, and then stood idly by while his buddy beat and strangled both girls to death (unlikely), he's still guilty by his own admission.
B. You want to bitch about innocent people being convicted, yet you still support unqualified individuals being allowed to bypass qualified individuals in admission to law school based solely on race.
Just how stupid are you? |
1. the death penalty isn't about this one person. it is about a system that kills people based on often unreliable information.
2. i support affirmative action because it is clear that as long as there are racists like you in america minorities will never have equal opportunity without it.
bonus point - 3. i'm glad you brought up the poor legal representation thing. that is one more reason why the death penalty is flawed - poor people do not get the same quality of legal representation as rich people do. and once they are dead, that problem cannot be corrected. |
THIS is the case we're discussing, jc... He admitted involvement. Period.
I'm still amazed that you will support a system that allows unqualified individuals to practice law, and then bitch about the injustice of the legal system. You aren't only stupid, you're a hypocrite too! |
no. that is the case you are discussing. i am discussing the death penalty and the judicial system that imposes it on people. i am suprised that you support killing people when we have proof that the judicial system is flawed, that convictions are often based on unreliable and mistaken information. every lawyer, no matter how they got into law school, has to pass the bar exam. as far as affrmative action; like i keep saying, as soon as racists like you stop discriminating against minorities we won't need it. like fred, you are the creator of most of the problems you spend all your time bitching about.
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